Takumi-kun Ano Hareta Aozora [Open thread]

[dheeaktf]

Sayasub@lj finishing subbing and upload...

just check in their livejournal...

[shineerose]

No point checking Sayasub's LJ. They are only giving out link to their existing members. [Not those who join just for link to sub]. Waited months for eng sub. Wasted time keep checking here and Sayasub nearly everyday. All for nothing!

[j3dmed]

Finally! Thanks for the subtitle. I watched the movie like 4 times, and still I have a lot of questions. All of these will be answered now.

 

Don't know how much people appreciate this!

[nicicia]

Thank you so much for the link to the subs! Finally!

 

Question...How do you get the soft subs on the movie? XD

[j3dmed]

You need to have VLC media player. Just google it and you'll be directed to the website. Download the player and under the video click on subtitle, open the file and then play the movie. The subtitle will automatically run, but the file should be on the same place as the movie to make sure.

[nicicia]

Thank you! ^^ Good thing I have VLC player already XD

[j3dmed]

If there is still a problem with the file you downloaded above, convert it to .srt

 

Just double click the file and put .srt at the end of the said file.

[dheeaktf]

yeah... that's sub from sayasub just for member....

[Aki]

Thank you a lot Chia!

[armee]

A word from the subbers:

 

"Due to certain members of this forum who do not know how to respect the wishes of the subbers, we have deleted the link. (It is people like you who have influenced SaYa to stop subbing.) We have figured out a new way to distribute the subs. Thank you."

 

I'm not part of the subbing team, just want to pass on this message from one of them.

[j3dmed]

Oh, that's very unfortunate. I believed that whoever did the subtitle exerted a lot of effort to write it down. It's not an easy thing to do.

 

However, I read in the group's livejournal that it is their policy to inhibit providing their members with files (like subs, in this case) if the media is on its early stages. ie If the movie is new, then a few weeks later only can they allow subs to be distributed. It's their way of making sure, those who actually paid for the movie (DVD) get the opportunity to 'savor' the product and just let others (free wheelers) to wait for the right time.

 

The only problem is once a file has been distributed on the net, it's free for all. You can indicate some message to prevent people from actually distributing it outside the target audience but that is just a futile attempt.... No matter how much you try to remind people, there will be others you will not follow.

 

It's not actually a case of respect. But more of freedom (however the lack of responsibility it entails...)

[chiakaiyuki]

^ I'm grateful for SaYa subbing this and all, but I don't see the point in creating subs if your only going to share it with certain people. And it's impossible for things to be contained if you post them on the net. (lol basicly what j3 said XD)

 

Anyway, I finally watched Takumi 5 all the way through. ~~~~~~~~

[Asuka11011]

To All of the members who downloaded the softsubs...UR WELCOME>.

 

but i think that u need to download the softsubs at the livejournal of sayasubs, just to follow the rules..

 

Join the community and ask the password if u haven't download it yet..thank you!!

[Asuka11011]

To Everyone Ur Welcome!!.

 

But just to follow the rules u need to join the community and ask for the password..

 

(Sorry for sharing it here, i know all the hardworks that they get through just to finish it but i just want to share it for the members who also want to watch it with subs..)I Apologize

[emittta]

the link don't work reupload it please!!!!!

[shineerose]

So how was it respectful to the people who have NOT got live journal accounts to be told that they can't have the subs because they weren't a member of Saya sub and there was no point joining just because they wanted subs as their request would be denied. Fans only wanted to watch it in english because the dvd's have never been in english subs and unlikely to be. This is why people want subs so desperately, to watch soemthing they enjoy.

[panda16]

THANKS VERY MUCH, finally I watched TAKUMI 5 with eng sub :hamtaro-005 (23):

[Karin]

Thanks a lot!!!!

 

Not everybody has LJ accounts. I appreciate Saya a lot! Though I think the Takumi Kun fans and the yaoi fans in general should be more united.

 

It doesn't really matter if the translation is made by YO (like for Junjou Pure Heart movie) or by Saya (like Takumi Kun) or by other translation team, I think the most important is that translations reache the fans. Don't you think so?

[Sayapinky]

Hi guys,

okay, I've been lurking around here for a time, but I feel like joining in and possibly explaining myself a bit to people who don't know all the stuff that's been going on

 

I'm SaYa, the one who did the main translating of the Takumi-kun movies 3, 4 and 5.

First,

thank you so much for showing me and hibimaosuki support! I hope you enjoyed watching the movies with the subtitles we made.

 

Well, okay, this is going to be a little long, but bear with me.

 

Honestly I'm a little scared writing here and possibly putting out in an open space that I finished these subtitles as well, but I'm taking my chances. I might delete/edit this entry later to make it less subjective, but I am almost certain the one I am afraid of do not know this forums.

 

Thing is, after I created and distributed subtitles for Takumi-kun 4 I received some long, aggressive and rather scary threats from someone on YouTube claiming to have a lot of information on me and taking legal action towards me if I kept on "committing the crimes I was doing and financially causing hurt to the people behind the projects I am illegally distributing" (rough translation, I received the messages in Japanese and obviously don't remember them perfectly).

That is why I closed down the Facebook-community and also quit all activites on YouTube. I was scared I was going to get sued or anything like that.

I have no idea who this person is. I cannot access the YouTube account from where he sends me these messages.

 

Well, things got quiet again, but then someone uploaded the 5th Takumi-kun movie onto YouTube and wrote in the description that rumours had it I was going to subtitle it. I then received another message from the same guy, telling me he was going to report me and showing me official papers addressing the Japanese law about this.

 

It is because of this guy that hibimaosuki is being so protective and (I'm so sorry if you read this!) aggressive, sometimes offensive about this. It is only to protect me from this person (and whoever might join him). Hibimaosuki also has some principles about "free wheelers" - she does not like it that people put no effort in achieving both the original product and the subtitles, but have them handed over. Don't ask me about it, I won't answer you, haha, that is completely up to her to defend.

 

I do however agree with her in some aspects. I sincerely hope you have all purchased legal copies of the movies to show your support in a way that the creators can feel!

 

I am just forever thankful for all the effort she puts in protecting me, even though she receives so many hard words and so much dislike for doing what she's doing. I hope you will realise this and not be too angry at her.

She is currently the one controlling how the subtitles are distributed, I have handed everything over to her. However, it is possibly to receive the subtitles outside of LJ, if you want them.

 

I trust hibimaosuki to be a lot wiser in the ways of subbing and protecting yourself doing so, and all the tremendous work she puts into this only proves me right. Again, I can only be thankful.

I was the stupid one flashing my subtitling all over the internet in the first place. When it comes down to it, I probably caused my troubles all by myself.

 

Well, I just wanted to make all this clear to you and to explain myself, because I understand how annoyed you must be with all this trouble you have to go through to get the subtitles. But please understand why. Speaking on the behalf of every fansubber out there, we are, after all, spending a lot of time (just to let you know, I have tried spending hours subbing 10-minute parts) and putting a lot of effort into creating these subtitles for you, so please find it in your hearts to show a little respect.

 

I know that once a link has been posted onto the internet it's "for free use" and I am not gonna demand you taking them down, I just... Well, you know why we make such a fuss about it and why hibimaosuki gets to upset when people go against our wishes. It's mainly for my safety....

Therefore, please respect the "rules" we have set up around these subtitles. They are there for a reason...

 

I'm sorry. Thank you.

[chiakaiyuki]

SaYa, we don't want you to be prosecuted either, and if I thought that posting your subs publicly would cause this then I wouldn't do it. I don't know the details of this threat ofc, but I don't think it's realistic. The Japanese government would have a hard time attacking all the fansubbers of J-movies in any case.

 

But if you tell me to take the subs down, I will. You made them, it's your decision, not mine, hibimaosuki's or anyone else on the internet (and esp not the fucker sending threats).

[j3dmed]

Hello SaYa. You don't know how much people appreciate the work you've done. I would like to say THANKS A LOT! You did a great job with the subtitling of the whole series and because of that more people who love Takumi Kun have understood the story more. There are of course, a lot of non-Japanese fans of movies and dramas and the only way we can really understand the stories is to have subtitles.

 

I have some background knowledge of legal issues, copyrights and trademarks related to materials on the net. If there is really a threat coming from that unknown source, they could have easily sent you all the legalities, without having to go through such means - and they are quite nasty.

 

If they are actually the producers of the movies, then all they have to do is write a legal letter coming from their Lawyer. The fact that the person who threatened you kept his identity private/secret ONLY MEANS one thing - he has no real/legitimate connection to the producers. I am not 100% sure of course, but based on my experience I believed it so.

 

And chiakaiyuki is right. If the Japanese government or the people who have copyrighted the materials are going to take any action, it would have been made months ago. There are many others who have violated the copyright laws in ACTUALLY distributing the movie itself. There are websites who even stream-feed movies and they still exists. I don't want to dwell on these issues too much.

 

Last thing, you just did the sub. Which ACTUALLY enhanced the movie. That's more PR/advertisement cost than the producers of the movie could possibly think of, let alone spend. You did them service.

[chiakaiyuki]

j3dmed, you are so eloquent *bows down to you*

 

The free advo really is amazing tho. I think if people where given the chance, most everyone who downloaded the movie would buy it. It just comes down to availability and shipping costs. -___-

[j3dmed]

Yes, you are absolutely right. The ultimate test to a movie's appeal is if people would actually buy it after watching it in low definition. There is something special about holding the DVD box, staring at the pictures of the actors, and actually touching the CD itself and playing it properly on a DVD player or a laptop.

 

As to being eloquent... LOL I'm simply passionate with the topic. And the community here is so awesome, I cannot help it but be inspired and feel happy to belong...

[Sloan]

LINKS ARE DEAD????? WHY everyone saw this with ENG SUBS already>? Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[chiakaiyuki]

@sloan Links to the movie or the sub? sub links are there, as for the movie I'm not sure tho.