A School For Heroes OOC Thread

[JR_TheRandomFan]

For those within the Heroes RP group, here is where we are able to discuss plot, posting order, and other issues that may arise during this project. Let's see if we can flesh out the plot first.

[ZX-MetalMonster]

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I suppose since we are playing heroes we'll need bad guys, if not right from the start then later on. I think this would be something significant for the plot.

 

Also, perhaps figuring out how the school they go to functions could help. By that I mean sorting out if and when they are sent out to help people, if they usually work alone or are put in pairs or teams, where they live and do they share rooms...? Maybe my memory is faulty but I don't remember these things being explained...?

[JR_TheRandomFan]

You would be right to say that the ins and outs of the school haven't been explained yet. That's because I wanted us to come to some sort of agreement on how that will work. The idea of villans neing introduced later on is a rather interesting idea. I'm thinking that we'll dive into that once everyone is a little more comfortable with the training the school offers.

[bank_phichai]

Hey only just found this thread I swear sometimes tapatalk hides threads from me!

 

Anyhow I think the idea of an enemy/villains is interesting as it provokes ideas of

- what are we fighting for?

- is this new fighting or is this part of something pre-existing?

-are the villains going to be npc or are they amongst us?

 

Also I guess we all have the vague idea that the school is going to progress our abilities but how? Are we all going to have classes together despite our differing abilities or are we going to have different classes with the odd npc or two? Are we living together in a dorm type situation? How do we meet each other? Is it through classes either for abilities or general education classes (are these even a thing?) or living together or fighting together?

 

So many potentials! Squee! Excite!

[ZX-MetalMonster]

Perhaps it would have been better to send everyone a link to the thread through PMs. I sort of only found it by accident when I wasn't looking for it and hadn't expected it was up.

 

I think they would have general education classes since most of the characters are at the age of high school students and would still need to receive the same education as others do at the same age.

 

Also, at the mention of fighting (though I'm aware you weren't referring to them fighting among themselves), should there be a set of rules to constrict the students from using their powers in harmful ways.

[JR_TheRandomFan]

I have to apologize for not linking everyone thought. I would figure that this thread would've been found a bit faster than it did. I think it would be a good idea to figure through a few rules on fighting other students,general education, and the villains idea. I'll see to it that I can work on another character sheet since Terra dropped out.

[ZX-MetalMonster]

We've brought up a lot of questions and haven't answered much so I went ahead, gathered them all up and tried to think of useful ideas. Of course, these are all only suggestions.

 

What I first considered though was the goal of the school. I imagine it is not a place where people with abilities come simply to learn how to gain mastery over their powers but is in stead a place for those who plan to become heroes and actively use those powers for good. However, what we haven't explained is if the school also acts as an organization which provides service to citizens or for example works with the police. I thought that perhaps this would be something reserved for those who have been in the school for the longest time and have proven they have control over themselves, if it's something the school does at all. It wouldn't work to have characters involved in these thing after a fixed age or "grade" because obviously everyone arrives at a different moment in their life.

 

It's also been brought in question what the school would be fighting for. I think that if they have a set enemy, be it a person or group or anything else, it would be a villain they all equally oppose, meaning it wouldn't be a nemesis of a single person, like the school's founder. There can also be more than one person or group of this nature so it's possible to have those who have been causing trouble for a long while as well as those who are appearing only now as our characters are joining the school.

However, as cliché as this might sound, I think their fight should be against crime in general. I Imagine each of them would have a different idea of justice and how it should be achiever so perhaps one of the things the school teaches is a certain way of thinking that keeps the heroes from becoming too harsh or going to extremes with their work?

 

As for how the school will develop the students powers and what classes they will have, perhaps it's best we assume there is a relatively small number of heroes so it is possible for them to both progress their powers separately and together when possible. With the abilities we've chosen I believe there are a few instances where the characters have something in common that they could work on together. Also, I believe concerning some things the school would only provide resources and leave the student to figure out on their own how to advance their power using them.

 

I'm curious though how much of our characters time will go into classes and if attending every class will be mandatory. It would be easiest to take the model of a real life school and replicate that in many aspects however I think the setting we have is unusual and shouldn't be made too simple and straightforward.

 

Regarding where they live, I think it would be good to have everyone in the same place, and by that I mean the same building or at least location so we have less of those moments when our characters are left on their own at home. Perhaps we can have both those who have a room of their own and those who share one with a room mate or two if someone is interested in an arrangement like that?

I have mentioned they would most likely have to be limited to some extent so they don't cause any trouble with their powers, perhaps if we decide they will all be staying in one building it could be an area where no one is allowed to use their powers simply so nothing bad happens even by accident.

 

 

What do you guys think? Like I've mentioned these are only some things I've thought about and if disagree I will forget about them without an issue.

[WolfDog12]

Ok, I just found this thread myself and I managed to read through all the posts so that I'm caught up. However, please bare with me a moment as I just dive right into this conversation and play off the suggestions laid out by

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What if classes were typically normal school classes but instead of Gym class, it is more of a training class. They could have outdoor and indoor facilities for students to be able to practice their powers and train them. This way students can choose if they work alone or buddy up. (On free time anyway.)

 

Maybe for classes the students could have one class that tells them the ins and outs of crime fighting and basically just how they will bring criminals down but have to leave the rest to the police for it is not the heroes' jobs to determine what a court should do.

 

I understand the whole only being allowed to fight crime if they have shown their control and have been there so long because, while MC is 18, he only joins the school at that age and isn't there for a long time so you wouldn't know his control.

 

One more thing... mine isn't as long of a post but That's cool... I would love to have a roommate or being in a room with other people. So to anyone who wants to be my roommate, let me know!!!!

[ZX-MetalMonster]

I agree it might be best to have regular classes, since most characters are at the age where they would still need them and it wouldn't be very good if they had to choose between a proper education and becoming a hero. Will they even receive some reward for heroic deeds in the future or will it be considered something they choose to do out of the good of their heart? To me it seems more like they are preparing for a sort of career.

 

Perhaps we should write down what classes they will have and plan how the school and the facilities around it are arranged, simply to get an idea of how our characters would be moving through the location.

 

I've remembered another thing, though it might just be something that was apparent to everyone but I noticed only now. Heroes tend to have secret identities, though it isn't a rule, and if I remember correctly most of us described being invited and not approaching the school. Does this mean the school is a secret as well and perhaps in a hidden location? It could also be in plain sight but presented as something else than what it really is.

[WolfDog12]

So, what I'm getting out of it is something like X-men. Where the school is mostly hidden or people don't know its true use. Here the students get a normal education while learning the ins and outs of their powers. Does that sound about right?

[JR_TheRandomFan]

That seems like a good comparison. Does that sound like a good idea?Any good way to flesh out the comparison,like rules or ways they can get a grip on their powers?

[WolfDog12]

I suppose that would depend on each person. We all have different powers so training will have to be up to them unless it is something like, "can you time my speed," "can you throw these disks for me to blast down," "can you throw something at me while I'm blindfolded," and that sort of thing. We can't just figure it out for each person or we would have no way to role play and interact with one another. We should plan out a schedule for the classes and have one general gym class for being able to use their powers and learn how to work in groups to solve problems and then leave free time for others to decide how they want to go about learning their specific skill.

[ZX-MetalMonster]

I meant to do some research on how much time an average student spends in class and draw some ideas from that, however it seems such things depend heavily of the place where the school is located. The educational system where I am is apparently very unusual so I've mostly only managed to confuse myself by trying to find out more about the more common ones =P

 

However I do have a very loose concept for how we can flesh out their schedules. We agree they will have a number of classes they all attend, perhaps those could be organized first in the morning with the 'person specific' ones coming afterwards. I assume their work will be graded in some way so that they can at least be pushed to do more if they are progressing very slowly, so I think they would have a certain amount of time they have to spend on some sort of training every day with the possibility to do more than that. If there aren't many heroes and they have big enough facilities I imagine space wouldn't be a problem and they wouldn't have to make plan ahead where each of them will be.

[Guest Eornostlice]

Uhm... I would actually have a suggestion... Too.

 

As an addition to normal classes and gym classes to train... I suggest mental health regular check ups. Something compulsory even if they do not have some inclination towards insanity... But for making sure they do stay on the minset of "heroes"? Training someone but neglecting the fact that due to stress they might become a villain seems somewhat strange. So that was what I came up with... ^^"

[bank_phichai]

Hey I've just caught up on all the ideas that have been suggested [emoji4]

I have really benefitted from the X Men comparison. That's what I kind of had in mind when I first saw this rp advertised. I think the split day idea works as it's what seems to happen in most profession related schools specifically performing arts. I also like the idea of therapy as being mandatory.

 

I'd like to take this further and suggest that one class subject could be the philosophy of being a hero that teaches about the moral conflicts surrounding being a hero such as power, control, order, and punishment. Not just that but also the consequences of the existence of heroes for non-heroes. The assumption I'm making here is that heroes have hidden identities because non-heroes fear them like humans vs mutants in X Men.

 

I also would like to suggest that in terms of training that there is no grading. Each hero in training I am assuming will have their own personal motivation for taking control of their powers. Grading for me takes away from that and puts in the realm of Pythagoras - something you learn despite it having little relevance to you because you're told to and not because you want to.

 

Perhaps what makes our characters come together is that they all reside in the same dorm with some in their own room and some sharing. I say this as we seem to have different preferences and it seems as logical as some characters are new to the school and are not in control of their powers. Perhaps making them inadvertently dangerous to be around.

 

Something that I'm pondering is the reason the existence of our powers. Are they due to evolutionary mutation like X Men; scientific experimentation like Dark Angel (the series with Jessica Alba), if so is that government or business based; or is it something else?

 

What are your thoughts?

[bank_phichai]

I hope this isn't rude and forgive me for being thick but do we need another person/character for this as I only count 5 posters on this thread?

[ZX-MetalMonster]

Regarding the origin of their powers, I think it is perhaps best to allow each player to decide this separately for their character. We have all provided a back story as part of our forms so it is very unlikely they are the result of government testing as none of us have mentioned anything similar as far as I remember. Though I'm not familiar with the show you've mentioned for that option and it's possible you're thinking of a sort of experimentation that could work despite them never spending time in government facilities.

To be perfectly honest I personally dislike the idea of having to explain my character's powers as the result of a mutation or test because I already have an idea of their origin and even without that, two of his powers strongly rely on the existence of the paranormal and not science. These are things I would rather not change.

 

As for the dorms, it might be a good idea we all write down if we would like for our character to be alone in a room or with others heroes, and how many of them. We can then talk and determine who will be living together.

 

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I think we have five people who have signed up and haven't officially left, though you're right, one person hasn't posted in this thread yet... though hopefully they're only observing the thread in silence or haven't found it yet, otherwise we'll be on the hunt for more people again =P

[WolfDog12]

About this mysterious person, I believe that Jr was going to be playing that character because we didn't have enough people and searching for someone else was going to take forever again. That's what I heard last time anyway so please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Also, we might be over analyzing things here. Why don't we put up a general schedule, for example, 7 classes a day for the five weekdays. Then, for the whole roommate thing, How about we leave it up to each person to contact those they want in their room and when everyone is all set, you can say if you are rooming alone or have agreed with someone that you should room together. This way no one is fighting over roommates and it is up to each person if they are willing to room with someone and who that is.... Please don't take it personally if someone does not room with you because we do have plenty of people..... Unless you guys want to have a third party decide for us.... that might actually work better...

 

Sorry, confusing myself... If that doesn't work please ignore me. I'm sick and it's late so I could just be talking gibberish.

 

Anyway, setting up the schedule, we can say once every two weeks or once a month they have a doctor come in on let's say a saturday or something and analyzes each kid for their mental health. I mean, something like that might get irritating if it was done every day, don't you think?

[Guest Eornostlice]

Uhm as far as I know there are enough people since I was the one that filled in the last spot that got open (the seme one) so no one has to end up with two characters. (:

 

I agree tho. The theraphy shouldn't be daily (unless they need it after something major happens) but once every two weeks or once a month.

 

As for the dorm... Shouldn't we restrict ourselves to one max two roommates given the fact that we are only a handful? (Ofc unless you guys want to come up with NPCs) Otherwise we might end up with all the charas in one room.

[bank_phichai]

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OK so I've been doing some thinking and I'm proposing a timetable. Feel free to improve on anything

 

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[tr]

[td][/td]

[td]Mon[/td]

[td]Tue[/td]

[td]Wed[/td]

[td]Thu[/td]

[td]Fri[/td]

[td]Sat[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]08:45-09:00[/td]

[td]Registration[/td]

[td]Registration[/td]

[td]Registration[/td]

[td]Registration[/td]

[td]Registration[/td]

[td][/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]09:00-10:00[/td]

[td]Biology[/td]

[td]Geography[/td]

[td]Arithmetic[/td]

[td]Design[/td]

[td]Japanese[/td]

[td]Health check-up[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]10:00-11:00[/td]

[td]Chemistry[/td]

[td]History[/td]

[td]Algebra[/td]

[td]Mechanics[/td]

[td]English[/td]

[td]Activity[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]11:00-11:30[/td]

[td]Break[/td]

[td]Break[/td]

[td]Break[/td]

[td]Break[/td]

[td]Break[/td]

[td]Activity[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]11:30-12:30[/td]

[td]Physics[/td]

[td]Philosophy[/td]

[td]Geometry[/td]

[td]Computer Science[/td]

[td]Art[/td]

[td]Activity[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]12:30-13:30[/td]

[td]Geology & Ecology[/td]

[td]Politics & Economics[/td]

[td]Statistics[/td]

[td]Computer study[/td]

[td]Music[/td]

[td]Lunch[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]13:30-14:00[/td]

[td]Osoji[/td]

[td]Osoji[/td]

[td]Osoji[/td]

[td]Osoji[/td]

[td]Osoji[/td]

[td]Lunch[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]14:00-15:00[/td]

[td]Lunch[/td]

[td]Lunch[/td]

[td]Lunch[/td]

[td]Lunch[/td]

[td]Lunch[/td]

[td]Free Time[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]15:00-17:00[/td]

[td]Personal Training[/td]

[td]Combat Training[/td]

[td]Defence Strategies[/td]

[td]Collaboration[/td]

[td]Personal Training[/td]

[td]Free Time[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

 

I've based this roughly on the Japanese public high school system where the school week has up until recently included Saturdays and where teachers move between classes rather than students. Osoji is time taken by students to tidy and clean school grounds. Activity time on a Saturday reflects timetabled time for extra-curricular clubs and associations such as sport, calligraphy, languages, and yearbook.

 

What's your opinions?

 

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Regarding dorms my preference is for mc to be on their own. At least at the beginning.

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I don't agree with the 'No Grades' thing since it is still a school and our characters are not the only ones there -speaking about extras and minor characters that will also have very little motivation in cultivating their own abilities. Plus it defeats the purpose of imposed hardwork since the characters will be doing their trainings in their own pace in that 'Whenever and however I want' mindset.

 

I was also thinking that for every type of training, there will be Instructors that will be respectively played by some of us -specifically those who can handle multiple players- but only one Instructor per player in order to make the trainings more diverse and interesting.

 

Also, I don't think that it is necessary to play every single course in the schedule below since it will inevitably make things dull when what all our posts contains is them learning one subject to another. I'm thinking that a mention of what they've learned, their Proffesors, etc, would be enough since our focus should be the story of our characters and not their lessons. The schedule itself is okay though.

 

I'd also like to see EVENTS -like perhaps Start of the Term Orientation, Training Examinations, Festivals, ect- that would slowly further the plot and the school year. It would be wise for the RP to have a pointed plot for us to follow, a way for our characters' stories to come together along with the main story, else the RP will have no purpose or drive.

[WolfDog12]

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Thank you, After a lot of rest, I feel much better.

 

I think the schedule is perfect. Now we even have a location for this school and it seems to be Japan.

 

As for MC, since he is only just joining and has the power to turn into a Tiger, it is best if he is alone for a couple weeks until he shows that he has full control over his powers.

[ZX-MetalMonster]

I'm sorry to be the one who complains but I actually dislike the schedule though I have a few clear points why. First would certainly be that I don't know how realistic it is to have both a working Saturday and classes from nine in the morning to five in the afternoon when they are supposed to only be in high school, though even if you excuse this on my lack of knowledge on the Japanese educational system... why Japan at all? Not one of our characters is from Japan, three are from Europe one from Asia and one has undetermined nationality, which means they would neither know the language nor the couture of the location that is suggested. Additionally, a lot of the classes listed seem very unnecessary, like design and ecology, however we've suggested a few very interesting one's that are specific for heroes that were not included. The chosen classes suit more a school that strives to cover all fields and even then better things could have been included. Also, there is the issue that has already been pointed out, that not all of our characters are the same age and that there are others in the school, so it would be impossible to have everyone functioning on the schedule.

[Guest Eornostlice]

I hate to be that one person but I second @ZX-MetalMonster 's opinion. How and why Japan? (Also ot makes it sound a little bit cliche) And such an overpacked schedule ^^" training at the end of the day after your brains have exploded in so many regular classes doesn't seem practical.

 

Uhm ^^" also what is Osoji? Sorry I seriously have no idea.

 

I hope I do not offend you since you took your time to create that... >.

[bank_phichai]

I had read "The Oliss School on the outskirts of a city in the hills of Japan" in the first post in the other thread. That is what I based the timetable on including osoji (a seemingly Japanese concept of cleaning of the school classrooms/grounds at the end of the day by students) and a health check/Saturday clubs. Now I re-read and see that the "hills of Japan" was completely fictional in my own mind. I feel like such a moron! I have no idea how I made that association. So yeah the school is therefore anywhere?

 

I am not offended that you can improve my attempt! My purpose was to attempt to give an idea of a timetable collating the ideas already written to progress discussion.

 

Although in a 7 hour school day I thought was generous. It's what we have in the UK except it's 8-4 instead of 9-5 (even though in typing this I realise it's longer than this now taking into account breakfast & homework clubs which take it to roughly 7.30-5).

 

I hadn't even contemplated an events timetable! Pretty much because I had only thought of starting the year and general education exams! I'm so dull!

 

I also realise just now that when I did a table in the post making it look clear and understandable. I did that on the website. On my tapatalk, at least, it's far from legible! Sorry!